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These are all minor detail type things that I need help with, in regards to my BBB. I'm basically writing about Empires getting together?

So, yeah.

But what I really need right now are the answers to a few questions that I've posted over on twitter.



Okay:

In this mini-primer of sorts (by [livejournal.com profile] riorhapsody on Tomrad, there's a bit in there from his blog. Now, this blog was dated November 1st, 2006, right after the TAI kerfluffle.

Next week, I will be heading out with Panic! At the Disco to expose what fresh individuals they are through a lens of camera.

Okay, so Tom was out with Panic in November of 2006. My question is this:
How long did Tom stay on the Nothing Rhymes With Circus tour?

[livejournal.com profile] rsadelle linked me to THIS FABULOUS THING which doesn't tell me when he left. I don't necessarily NEED to know how long Tom was on the NRWC tour, but I like having all those tiny details in order.

(also, thank god for that spreadsheet, 'cause hiiii, answered another question I had had.)



Also, according to [livejournal.com profile] just_katarin's Empires primer, Empires basically starts with Tom and Sean, while Tom brought in Max, and Sean brought in Al (who he'd known before). And Ryan was found via the internet. (lolol oh empires)

SO question(s):
Did Ryan email Tom and Sean because he knew they were looking for a drummer? Did Ryan know this because of Scimeca? Is it safe to assume that this is how it happened? Or would I be totally off my rocker to do so?

Anyways...any little information helps at this point, really.

Date: 31 Jan 2011 21:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sullen-hearts.livejournal.com
I would lol forever if Tom & Sean had placed a 'drummer wanted' ad, just btw.

Date: 31 Jan 2011 21:54 (UTC)
ext_52657: Lyrics from Empires (Midnight Land), Icon by me! (Empires!)
From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
Ahahahahhaa, oh god, I wouldn't put it past 'em. (and hey, to be fair, that has worked for bands before! Motley Crue got Mick Mars that exact way...they posted a classified ad for "loud, rude, aggressive guitarist wanted' and Mick Mars showed up and the rest is, as they say, history!) (♥_♥)

Date: 31 Jan 2011 22:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sullen-hearts.livejournal.com
See. Perfect way to find one's drummer.

(To be fair my better half found 3/4 of a band that way, so...)

Date: 31 Jan 2011 22:29 (UTC)
ext_52657: Lyrics from Empires (Midnight Land), Icon by me! (Empires!)
From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] riorhapsody said it may very well BE that they saw an ad or whatever for Ryan! It's not a 100% surety type thing, but enough that I can use it easily enough, you know?

I'm so scared that I'm gonna fuck up some tiny thing about Empires and everyone's going to, like, kill me over it. Like, for this fic, I'm gonna actually have to write Al and that terrifies me, 'cause shit, what happens if I fuck it up? What if I fuck the whole thing up? And just. SO MANY NERVES when it'll probably be read by, like, 5 people.

Date: 31 Jan 2011 22:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riorhapsody.livejournal.com
I THINK Tom was on the NWRC tour for about 7-10 days. Definitely not the whole tour, at least.

I think I remember something about Ryan having some sort of musician/drummer profile that they found? or maybe they posted an ad like on Craigslist. I don't think Ryan and Nick knew each other before Ryan was in Empires, though. IDK that for sure but Nick would have definitely taken credit for finding Ryan if he could.

Date: 31 Jan 2011 22:13 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
I figured it was for around a week and a half, yeah. I didn't think it was for the whole tour, but hell, sometimes you really can never tell.

And oooh, okay! And ahahahahahahahaha, okay, GOOD POINT. Nick Scimeca would definitely take all the credit. XD Okay, I can deal with an ad seen somewhere for Ryan.


Maybe you can verify this for me: I heard a few months back that Sean and Nick were cousins...truth or AHAHAHAHA, WHAT?

Date: 31 Jan 2011 23:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riorhapsody.livejournal.com
LOL I have never heard that and I doubt it's true. However, I did hear that Sean used to date Nick's ex-girlfriend's sister.

Date: 1 Feb 2011 04:24 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
I didn't think it was...but, like, I could kind of see it? And ahahahaha, oh god, how is that more ridiculous? I can't even.

Ahahaha, good lord. XD

Date: 31 Jan 2011 22:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fictionalfaerie.livejournal.com
THEY LOVE THE INTERNET AND MEETING FRIENDS THERE.
:D

Date: 31 Jan 2011 22:17 (UTC)
ext_52657: Lyrics from Empires (Midnight Land), Icon by me! (Empires!)
From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
THAT IS TRUE.

MEETING FRIENDS FROM THE INTERNET MAKES TOM CONRAD GO ALL HAND-FLAPPY. AND HUGGY.

HE'S SO PROUD.

:-D

Date: 2 Feb 2011 00:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
you know.... with empires you could probably just ask them and they will answer. with their history and all :P

Date: 2 Feb 2011 00:45 (UTC)
ext_52657: Lyrics from Empires (Midnight Land), Icon by me! (Empires!)
From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
OH GOD, AND HOW WOULD I EXPLAIN THAT, HUH?

HEY, TOMRAD, HOW LONG DID YOU HANG WITH JWALK ON THE CIRCUS TOUR? WHY DO I NEED TO KNOW? UH. NO REASON, DUDE.

HEY HEY, RYAN J, HOW'D YOU JOIN EMPIRES ANYWAYS?


Oh my god, I cannot even imagine asking them for information for my big bang. WHAT IF THEY TRY TO FIND ME? WHAT THEN?

Date: 2 Feb 2011 00:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
or they try to read it? putting your reader count by at least 2! :P

lol asking ryanj wouldnt be too bad! it could just be curiosity! asking Tom for details would be a bit weird yeah, but i think the exact days isnt so important, especially since no one knows for sure, as far as i know it was a few days, no more, a week sounds about right :D:D

Date: 2 Feb 2011 00:56 (UTC)
ext_52657: Lyrics from Empires (Midnight Land), Icon by me! (ZOMRAD)
From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha, oh god, I don't care if they read it, I JUST DON'T WANT THEM COMMENTING. I'M REALLY SCARED THEY WOULD COMMENT AND THEN I WOULD DIE.

And ahahahaha, true. And yeah, I'm not worried about exact days, but I wanted to know about how long and such. I know that it was when Jack's Mannequin was on the tour, WOOT. XD

Date: 2 Feb 2011 01:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
ahahaha oh man, i wouldnt want them to read it at all! i dont them to know that i make them do things in my head! that i write down! and then share with my friends!!! i freak about it if i think about it too much, and sometimes i like to pretend the fourth wall is still there :P

\o/\o/ its gonna be so awesome, i cant wait to read it :D:D

Date: 2 Feb 2011 01:23 (UTC)
ext_52657: Lyrics from Empires (Midnight Land), Icon by me! (Empires!)
From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha, I'm cool with them reading, strangely enough! I JUST DON'T WANNA KNOW THEY'RE READING. XD XD XD

And thaaannkkk you! <3 <3 <3 I'm still debating between canon-compliant or AU-ing it up or not, but it'll be Tom getting Empires, I know. XD

Date: 2 Feb 2011 01:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
ahahahahahahaha perils of living in rpf!

im so excited! i would always go with AUing it up, coz no matter how much research you do no one really knows how it exactly went down, so theres always that element of AU.

Date: 2 Feb 2011 01:35 (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mayqueen517.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha, right?

And RIGHT! Plus, Aus are so funnn. And nobody can say IT DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT, YOU'RE SO STUPID. XD

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